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Dr Patrick Marshall: There are people who've just been promoted to maybe more senior roles in the UK context of band 7s and band 8s. There are people who are very senior.

One person I recruited last I think it would have been-- it would have been September is an ex CEO of a trust and had been director of nursing and all sorts of things. So there's a whole range of different kind of professionals and different experiences of leadership that will be brought on to this. And every one of those people, wherever they are, will gain benefit from this.

So if you're growing your leadership portfolio, your experience of being a leader and a manager, you will be able to. Often that level 7 qualification is a kind of a litmus test for people that interviews or the next post you want to go for to say you're serious and you've gone and done this on your own account. For some people, it's a kind of a requirement. You know, your organization will say, we want you to have got a masters qualification because you need to do that.

We will have leadership fellows on this course, we have a number of them, who can actually choose to spend their leadership fellow, their fellowship money on anything, and they will come and do maybe a PGCert with us. And then that often then transfers into the diploma and the full MSc. So there's a whole host of steps which can be very useful in terms of your career and your ambitions in terms of how you develop your career.

But I think it's also useful to have that formal qualification, if you haven't got it already, to reflect back on, so what is it I've been doing? And how have I been doing that? And what does that mean for me? Because I think that also is very, very important, and becomes slightly more reflective when you are a senior manager already to think about, so what else do I need to do? And how do I deal with all these things that have been really quite challenging?

But of course, what you then notice is they're challenging everywhere, and that some of the solutions you may not have yet seen, maybe from other countries or maybe from other theorists or other concepts or ideas, can actually be applied and you can still learn. Because, certainly, I learn every single day that I come to work that I turn a computer on, that I open a book. Learning is something that happens, and it should happen, and it's what keeps us alive and keeps us moving forward. So I think, ultimately, the MSc is really useful in terms of any ambitions you have. And even if you have no ambitions, I think it's still really useful because it will help you become a better and more confident and competent practitioner of whatever level and wherever you are and whatever you're doing. Actually, what Online gives you is that freedom to use the information in a structured way.

We have-- and I should have said this in when you said-- when we're talking about the structure of-- what's the course like. We have a weekly webinar. And those weekly webinars are happening live time, right? So it's a bit UK-based. So we tend to have it sort of the end of the UK working day, around the 5:00, 6:00 mark. That tends to be normal. So depending where you are and what your time zone is, that can be a little bit more challenging, but that's where it sits because, by and large, that works for most people. And because I have a massively diverse tutor team that I can draw on, we have professors of public health, we have people who are working as academics in the West Country, people who are in London, people in Beverley, which is up sort of near Hull, all of that, that kind of diversity, is brought together. And people can access weekly those live human beings. So you're not just abandoned to the world. You can always come and see someone, and they're all recorded and they're all there. And because we have large cohorts, we have up to six of those different types of webinar happening each week, all of which are slightly different because they're run by slightly different people.

And you'll have a tutor, you'll have one of those people who will be your tutor, but you can go to any of the tutors. Because some people are kind of, well, I really like-- or I can't go to Edward's because it doesn't work for me, but I can go to Angeli's because it works that works better for me. That's fine. You can do that. So there is always that sense of togetherness with other people, but also togetherness with a teacher, with a tutor, who will be marking and not setting, because the work is set, but they'll be marking your work when you actually submit your assignments. So all of that really helps give you a sense of something. I'm always around. Jane, my colleague who is here when I'm not, is always around. We have other people. Now, we'd like more people, and we may well get more people, but at the moment, you've got all of these tutors, so you're be in a tutor group of no more than 30 and you'll have me as well, all of which are available at any point within reason to answer questions, to guide you, to make sure that you're OK and make sure that you understand what it is you need to do and how you need to do it.